Why is it considered uncultured to be proudly American?

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22 Mar 2017, 2:41 am

Because a certain people value detachment, irony and cynicism and patriotism is the opposite of that.


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22 Mar 2017, 4:13 am

All I have to say is that those who CLAIM to LOVE America are HYPOCRITES if they tell you to get out of the country for speaking anything truthful. I say to them that if THEY are the ones who HATE the FREEDOMS to be able to speak TRUTH so much then THEY need to get out of the country for being a bunch of COMMUNIST/FASCIST PIGS!! ! The U.S. is the WORLD's Prison-Capital! Its politicians and police are LAWLESS.


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22 Mar 2017, 9:22 am

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If you love America, you love your homeland and country. To me that is very sweet and full of patriotism.
America has religious freedom and it is a very wonderful country (albeit ,far from perfect), it is the freest of countries.

Some liberals view this as being uncultured. If you have a love of American cuisine , for example- BBQ,
cheeseburgers, apple pie- you are a hick. But if you enjoy 3rd world cuisine made from countries where people actually
defecate in the streets- somehow that makes you a sophisticate. I don't understand the mentality there.


I think people that generalise about 3rd world cuisine as 'made from countries where people dedicate in the streets' may be seen as uncultured.

I find the whole nationalism/national pride/jingoism thing interesting though.

Visited Long Island near NYC for work 5 years ago. Couldn't believe the amount of people that actually have American flags in their front garden. Never seen anywhere like it. But that's cool, it the culture there and I love seeing and learning about different cultures.



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22 Mar 2017, 11:48 am

Personally I find nationalism to be silly as I had nothing to do with where I happened to be born. However, liking the country one is from for objective reasons is ok. I find that in the US however, the pride and nationalism is way over the top. The US doesn't really have anything 200+ other countries don't have. Is American culture better than a different culture? No, it's just that is what you are used to. People from other countries find American culture weird because they are used to doing things a different way. It's this perceived superiority that fuels a lot of the hatred of America around the world.



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22 Mar 2017, 3:08 pm

Because 'Murrican's, for the most part, are arrogant, greedy, closed-minded, slovenly sons of b!tches.



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22 Mar 2017, 3:42 pm

Well gee, putting down other countries based on stereotypes, I can't begin to fathom why people think you're uncultured :roll:

In all seriousness I'm from a very liberal state and I've NEVER heard someone say BBQ or apple pie are hick foods. What the hell are you even talking about?

Patriotism is often (quite fairly imo) criticized because this country is known to breed people who engage in blind patriotism. Won't listen to any actual legitimate criticism because "this is the best country in the world." Which by the way, is why the government and politicians actively encourage it lol.


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22 Mar 2017, 3:48 pm

lidsmichelle wrote:
Well gee, putting down other countries based on stereotypes, I can't begin to fathom why people think you're uncultured lmao.

In all seriousness I'm from a very liberal state and I've NEVER heard someone say BBQ or apple pie are hick foods. What the hell are you even talking about?

Patriotism is often (quite fairly imo) criticized because this country is known to breed people who engage in blind patriotism. Won't listen to any actual legitimate criticism because "this is the best country in the world." Which by the way, is why the government and politicians actively encourage it lol.
I think I sometimes hear people talking like that. Many High income people I have met eat at posh whilst regard things like McDonalds as being somewhat lowly. It seems weird.

Hey Lid coming from Washington how do people see Americans living in rural areas say Kentucky, Mississippi or Arkansas?



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22 Mar 2017, 3:52 pm

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lidsmichelle wrote:
Well gee, putting down other countries based on stereotypes, I can't begin to fathom why people think you're uncultured lmao.

In all seriousness I'm from a very liberal state and I've NEVER heard someone say BBQ or apple pie are hick foods. What the hell are you even talking about?

Patriotism is often (quite fairly imo) criticized because this country is known to breed people who engage in blind patriotism. Won't listen to any actual legitimate criticism because "this is the best country in the world." Which by the way, is why the government and politicians actively encourage it lol.
I think I sometimes hear people talking like that. Many High income people I have met eat at posh whilst regard things like McDonalds as being somewhat lowly. It seems weird.

Hey Lid coming from Washington how do people see Americans living in rural areas say Kentucky, Mississippi or Arkansas?

Well I'm from a mildly conservative area so it's hard to say lmao. I've honestly never heard people discuss those areas except in a concept of income and quality of living issues. Washington is very Washington centric. Generally we just b***h about Californians. Sometimes about Idaho and Oregon too.


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22 Mar 2017, 3:56 pm

lidsmichelle wrote:
Shahunshah wrote:
lidsmichelle wrote:
Well gee, putting down other countries based on stereotypes, I can't begin to fathom why people think you're uncultured lmao.

In all seriousness I'm from a very liberal state and I've NEVER heard someone say BBQ or apple pie are hick foods. What the hell are you even talking about?

Patriotism is often (quite fairly imo) criticized because this country is known to breed people who engage in blind patriotism. Won't listen to any actual legitimate criticism because "this is the best country in the world." Which by the way, is why the government and politicians actively encourage it lol.
I think I sometimes hear people talking like that. Many High income people I have met eat at posh whilst regard things like McDonalds as being somewhat lowly. It seems weird.

Hey Lid coming from Washington how do people see Americans living in rural areas say Kentucky, Mississippi or Arkansas?

Well I'm from a mildly conservative area so it's hard to say lmao. I've honestly never heard people discuss those areas except in a concept of income and quality of living issues.
Seems interesting. So many on the right like the paint the left as being snobbish and looking down on these people as rednecks. But all that I have seen shows its kind of not the case. Many people I know who see Trump as racist want to also reach out to these poorer areas.



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22 Mar 2017, 3:58 pm

Honestly the PNW is kind of in its own little bubble. The west coast in general is.


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22 Mar 2017, 4:01 pm

lidsmichelle wrote:
Honestly the PNW is kind of in its own little bubble. The west coast in general is.
That could be the case. It depends what circle you move in. Could I ask have you witnessed any of that?



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22 Mar 2017, 9:05 pm

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It's this perceived superiority that fuels a lot of the hatred of America around the world.


Let them hate on this. :twisted:

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23 Mar 2017, 10:10 am

Raptor wrote:
NotThatClever13 wrote:
It's this perceived superiority that fuels a lot of the hatred of America around the world.


Let them hate on this. :twisted:

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This is exactly the point I am getting at. What do you plan to do with that aircraft? What exactly does it prove?



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23 Mar 2017, 10:53 am

NotThatClever13 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
NotThatClever13 wrote:
It's this perceived superiority that fuels a lot of the hatred of America around the world.


Let them hate on this. :twisted:

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This is exactly the point I am getting at. What do you plan to do with that aircraft? What exactly does it prove?


Skippy, like most rednecks, would use this aircraft to bomb the living p!ss out of anyone and anything that p!sses him off in even the slightest matter. To him, might makes right, no matter what!



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Skippy, like most rednecks, would use this aircraft to bomb the living p!ss out of anyone and anything that p!sses him off in even the slightest matter. To him, might makes right, no matter what!


I suppose, but that would be a huge lack of forethought on their part.



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23 Mar 2017, 11:22 am

NotThatClever13 wrote:
Raptor wrote:
NotThatClever13 wrote:
It's this perceived superiority that fuels a lot of the hatred of America around the world.


Let them hate on this. :twisted:

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This is exactly the point I am getting at. What do you plan to do with that aircraft? What exactly does it prove?

Proves 'Murica is tuffer'n all them forin countries.
Murica, f*k yeah!
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